[BadVista Advocate] Ubuntu? Well OT.

[Kevin Dwyer]

On 4/30/07, rek2 GNU/Linux LO LO LO <rek2 at binaryfreedom.info> wrote:
> First lets call it GNU or GNU/Linux,

Call it whatever you want but please stop bothering people about it.
I'm not trying to get RMS to speak at my LUG, so I tend to use the
shorthand, which is also the more commonly understood term.  Not to
mention more obviously pronounceable and therefore a far better
marketing choice.

> second, you choose to buy that nice 3d card... now you must use the
> proprietary driver.. I see there a choice you made that was the wrong
> choice.. in the small cases were the card came with your computer
> already, then I advise to
> help the people at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/  for a real free
> driver..

Thanks for lecturing me on how bad I am for wanting to play a video
game on my computer, use Beryl, and for wanting to use a PCI wireless
card.  It sounds like BadEndUser rather than BadVista.  You will not
gain support with that attitude.

> we can't promote proprietary drivers or anything non-free,
> we cant stop people from using it.. but you can't tell someone to use
> them neither..
> as of now gNewSense is the only distro we can promote.. if we don't like
> it then lets work in
> making gnewsense better, we are in need of developers to help...
>
> if this project is going to promote non-free I am going to stand on the
> side.
> what It though of this project was:
> 1. to point the defects  of Windows or any other proprietary OS later.
> so we can't shoot our own feet, are we in one side or the other.
> 2. to promote FreeSoftware with FreeSoftware OS to archive point 3.
> 3. we are trying to show people a choice but not to hook them up on
> steroids sacrificing our ideals to convince them to move. we are what we
> are.. we are not the open source community.. but the FreeSoftware
> community and we have political ideals.
> if they don't like it they never will, I agree that some people may need
> to open their eyes with some candy already in windows.. but I don't
> agree we should tell them that what they are doing is right.. or that
> running proprietary is right, that is for *them* to think and choose.

I thought that this project was anti-Vista because of the dangerous
policies and technologies they are introducing, viz. DRM, Trusted
Computing, etc.  I don't think it's quite the same fight as the
anti-proprietary fight.  One may be a subset of the other, but I
personally think the fight for digital rights is the more important
one, and the reason I decided to join this list.  Am I incorrect in my
reading of the BadVista party programme?  If so, I apologize and will
happily leave.

Do you intend to tolerate others who want to fight for some of the
same causes or do you intend to alienate them?

-kpd