[BadVista Advocate] Ubuntu? Well OT.

rek2 GNU/Linux LO LO LO rek2 at binaryfreedom.info
Mon Apr 30 12:01:07 EDT 2007


Kevin Dwyer wrote:
>
> Call it whatever you want but please stop bothering people about it.
> I'm not trying to get RMS to speak at my LUG, so I tend to use the
> shorthand, which is also the more commonly understood term.  Not to
> mention more obviously pronounceable and therefore a far better
> marketing choice.
>
>   
This is not about RMS, is about us. is easy to attack one man.
that man just carries our msg. and you can call it the wrong name if you
wish..
but you are confusing people so not helping.
if you going to tell people you should use this OS you should educate
them the right way.
this is not about sales or marketing.



>> second, you choose to buy that nice 3d card... now you must use the
>> proprietary driver.. I see there a choice you made that was the wrong
>> choice.. in the small cases were the card came with your computer
>> already, then I advise to
>> help the people at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/  for a real free
>> driver..
>>     
>
> Thanks for lecturing me on how bad I am for wanting to play a video
> game on my computer, use Beryl, and for wanting to use a PCI wireless
> card.  It sounds like BadEndUser rather than BadVista.  You will not
> gain support with that attitude.
>   
no comments.. you said it all.

>
> I thought that this project was anti-Vista because of the dangerous
> policies and technologies they are introducing, viz. DRM, Trusted
> Computing, etc.  I don't think it's quite the same fight as the
> anti-proprietary fight.  One may be a subset of the other, but I
> personally think the fight for digital rights is the more important
> one, and the reason I decided to join this list.  Am I incorrect in my
> reading of the BadVista party programme?  If so, I apologize and will
> happily leave.
>   

Is anti-vista but we are also giving an option.. what option you want to
give them?
the other less free option that will give you the same problems in the
long run?
you want to promote anti-vista showing MacOSX or any distro with also
restrictive problems?
I can't lie to people and tell them "here use this OS because is all
different than Windows" but it is?
is there any distro out there that is really 100% not like windows? yes
just one.. gNewSense.

> Do you intend to tolerate others who want to fight for some of the
> same causes or do you intend to alienate them?
>   

you are alienating yourself because you don't agree that if we are going
to give FreeSoftware as a choice  we have to give Free
Software, if we are going to just badmouth windows and not give and
option, then I agree with you but while we promote free software
we have to promote it the right way with the right terms.

> -kpd
>
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