[BadVista Advocate] Advocate Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17

Sun Apr 29 13:09:48 EDT 2007

please think to shit-ozz as a virus not as an operating system, and so
all the problems are finished.

operating system are others things:

not free software (multics, unix, its, vms, mvs,  irix ) free software
(gnu/linux gnu/hurd, gnu/kfreebsd),these are operating system
(shit-ozz is a joke) and is a virus

bye bye
pdb

2007/4/29, paolo del bene <ninuxpdb at gmail.com>:
> hi, my name is paolo del bene and for many known as pdb, as you can see i am
> italian, so i do not write correctly, please think to me as a person
> that has studied english at school as 2 language and as 3 french.
> after this, i want say that i think
> to nano-soft as an empire which want put on all the computers shit-ozz
> svista.
> i think that is not more our problem, people are free to understand
> what is better, we must only say that gnu/hurd, gnu/linux and
> gnu/kfreebsd give people the freedom to
> use the computers and the programs as they want , that we have not
> problems of virus, we offer people the possibility to be part of a
> community of hackers interested to create softwares. for example in
> our community of wi-fi http://ninux.org we got a guy he has 14 years
> old and just is a programmer, he uses gnu/linux.
> as rms just said in the dvd revolution-os 2 there are guys interested
> to known what is really happening in the computer, but if they use not
> free software the teacher can't help him, one because the informations
> are under copyright 2 because he is not authorized, but if he uses
> free software the teacher can say him, you got the source code. now
> when you see the source code for the first time, you are not able to
> modify or write source code, but if you read many source code of third
> people
> you understood how to work, and step by step you became a good programmer.
> this is the only way to teach guys, and a day that guys teach their
> sons to program or they teach to others guys in the
> schools/university, public administration, or government, national
> security.... . this is important to form a community and understood
> the the informations must be diffused.
>
> these are the good things to have a good society,
>
> yesterday evening i was looking the movie the little princess, and for
> a moment i
> am turned back to think to my life of child, i have always lived
> thinking to the future
> and how could be important to became anyone in the life. today i think
> how is difficult remain as i was young. why to change ? why became
> anyone in the life ?
> i wanna be asked as nicknamenobody.
>
> i thank you for your immediatly reply, and please excuse me, if my
> english is no good.
>
> best faithfully
> pdb
> nickname nobody
>
>
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> >    1. Re: Microsoft Says "Vista has less bugs than XP"
> >       (Morten Juhl Johansen)
> >    2. Re: Microsoft Says "Vista has less bugs than XP"
> >       (Yasith Lahiru Vidanaarachchi)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:52:07 +0200
> > From: Morten Juhl Johansen <mjj at syntaktisk.dk>
> > Subject: Re: [BadVista Advocate] Microsoft Says "Vista has less bugs
> > 	than XP"
> > To: "BadVista.org Advocacy" <advocate at badvista.org>
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> > Yasith Lahiru Vidanaarachchi wrote:
> > > It's mainly not about bugs in windows software, it's about restrictions
> > > to the users, DRM, trusted computing etc. windows software has always
> > > been buggy right ?
> >
> > Buggy is not exactly a subjective parameter, either. I used KDE earlier
> > on, and it crashed frequently. Also, the fact that as an Ubuntu user
> > (which is hardly an example of freedom, so let us say gNewSense user)
> > you have to edit xorg.conf manually, if you need a previously
> > unconfigured resolution. The fact that a lot of resolutions are
> > available but not through the graphical interface can be perceived as a
> bug.
> >
> > Yours,
> > mjjohansen
> >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:01:17 +0530
> > From: "Yasith Lahiru Vidanaarachchi" <yasith.vidanaarachchi at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [BadVista Advocate] Microsoft Says "Vista has less bugs
> > 	than XP"
> > To: "BadVista.org Advocacy" <advocate at badvista.org>
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> >
> > I don't think it can be called as a bug (editing xorg.conf manually) it's
> > the users choice. But this is a use full feature coz then I can make some
> > software's to detect my VGA card as another one :P
> >
> > and makesure that you use the stable version of kde because there are lots
> > of testing and unstable versions, as a testing kde user i didn't had many
> > crashes up to this date. bugs are things that the developers don't know a
> > reason why this is happening
> >
> > If I'm wrong correct me
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > On 4/29/07, Morten Juhl Johansen <mjj at syntaktisk.dk> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yasith Lahiru Vidanaarachchi wrote:
> > > > It's mainly not about bugs in windows software, it's about
> restrictions
> > > > to the users, DRM, trusted computing etc. windows software has always
> > > > been buggy right ?
> > >
> > > Buggy is not exactly a subjective parameter, either. I used KDE earlier
> > > on, and it crashed frequently. Also, the fact that as an Ubuntu user
> > > (which is hardly an example of freedom, so let us say gNewSense user)
> > > you have to edit xorg.conf manually, if you need a previously
> > > unconfigured resolution. The fact that a lot of resolutions are
> > > available but not through the graphical interface can be perceived as a
> > > bug.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > > mjjohansen
> > >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:22:32 -0700
> > From: Don Hensley <Don at donhensley.com>
> > Subject: Re: [BadVista Advocate] gnu/linux
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> >
> > Hi pdb,
> > Nice to have you on board. Yes, the whole GPL and GNU project can easily
> be
> > described as a labor of love. Or as the result of one person scratching
> > their
> > own itch, and sharing the relief with everyone.
> >
> > Either way it is about community.
> >
> > Which is the underling problem with Microsoft's latest evil
> creation==Vista.
> > It is about many things, but community is not one of them.
> >
> > DRM and Treacherous Computing are about the death of community. They serve
> > only to isolate every one from the other. That is their entire function.
> >
> > They are NOT about  protecting "rights" they are about destroying the most
> > basic of human traits, that of being part of a community. It's what we
> > humans
> > do. Community is more then a 'right', it is an  inseparable part of what
> it
> > is to be human, it's in your blood and bone, meat and brain, heart and
> soul.
> >
> > I will share a little bit from one of my favorite people "John Locke" (you
> > can
> > read more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke
> >
> > Among many other things, he said (I'm paraphrasing for simplicity):
> >
> > "In the beginning people could drink from the streams, eat of the fruit
> from
> > the trees, and wake and sleep when and as they chose. Then one day a
> person
> > came along and said 'These are MY trees, and you must pick the fruit from
> > them for me. If you do so then I will pay you enough fruit back for your
> > labor to feed you'. He said this even though he had no greater (or lessor)
> > claim on the trees then did anyone else, for the trees belonged to all of
> > human kind. Now the error was not in the person that claimed all the trees
> > for himself, for to be master of all you can is also a human trait. The
> > error
> > was in those people that listened to him and started picking fruit for
> him,
> > for they willingly became slaves."
> >
> > John Locke was a really smart guy. So the error is not that Vista wishes
> to
> > lock things up so it becomes a Vista only world, the error would be in
> > believing in that approach and starting to believe that something that
> > really
> > belongs to us all --algorithms and the way in which those algorithms are
> > implemented, might actually be individual property. This is nothing less
> > then
> > patenting and/or trying to control our use of numbers and the methods of
> > manipulating them - from addition to calculus, and realms as yet
> > undiscovered.
> >
> > Buying into Vista is buying into the notion that something we all own (as
> in
> > John Locke's fruit trees), can somehow actually be the 'property' of any
> one
> > man or controlling group.
> >
> > It is our human heritage to explore new realms, let no man take from you
> the
> > tools for doing so. And software patents, DRM, Treacherous Computing, and
> so
> > on, are but ways to deny you that which makes you a free human.
> >
> > So yes pdb, there is nothing wrong with getting paid for your labor --so
> > long
> > as you retain the right to also give it away, for ultimately your labor
> must
> > belong to you alone.
> >
> > Any other way of looking at who owns your labor involves slavery. Be Free,
> > Stay Free... and joining the FSF isn't a bad way to help that cause (I
> just
> > could not resist that little plug).
> >
> > Don.
> >  ********************************************
> >  On Sunday 29 April 2007 06:38 am, paolo del bene wrote:
> > my name is paolo del bene, for all the people known as pdb, i use
> > gnu/linux from
> > 2002, i am happy to use it, i have not any restriction that not free
> > software has.
> > the free software give me many possibilities which i could not have
> > with not free software. for example i have no money to give to bill
> > gates and others, but the question is not only money, but the freedom
> > to use the software as any person want. the freeom to copy, make
> > changes, to modify, to distribute any person, organization, to sell to
> > create manuals, guides under the terms of gnu free documentation
> > license, but the more important think is to be part of a community of
> > hackers interested to create softwares and any other think to give
> > people the freedom. when we think to the software we must think to the
> > developers which 90% of times they work gratis or they receive few
> > contributes. i am not interested to create a second microsoft, but to
> > give anyone the right for their job. receives contributes is a way to
> > give to the developers the possibility to continue to mantain opened
> > the job, to mantain dsl, harware and to the end is right to be paid
> > the right for the job, but if i want to give my job for free and
> > gratis any have the possibility to use it and there is not any other
> > license that give you the freedom to do this, so possibly use the gnu
> > general public license gnu gpl.
> >
> > happy hacking
> >
> > pdb
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:55:44 +0800
> > From: "Koh Choon Lin" <open07 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [BadVista Advocate] gnu/linux
> > To: "BadVista.org Advocacy" <advocate at badvista.org>
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> > > DRM and Treacherous Computing are about the death of community. They
> serve
> > > only to isolate every one from the other. That is their entire function.
> >
> > With DRM included in Vista, you are not in control of your computer.
> > Your computer will keep connecting to Microsoft to download new
> > instructions to follow. Your PC is obeying them, not you!
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Koh Choon Lin
> > Singapore GNU Group
> >
> > singapore.gnu.googlepages.com
> >
> >
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