[BadVista Advocate] Advocate Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17

Sun Apr 29 12:57:36 EDT 2007

hi, my name is paolo del bene and for many known as pdb, as you can see i am
italian, so i do not write correctly, please think to me as a person
that has studied english at school as 2 language and as 3 french.
after this, i want say that i think
to nano-soft as an empire which want put on all the computers shit-ozz svista.
i think that is not more our problem, people are free to understand
what is better, we must only say that gnu/hurd, gnu/linux and
gnu/kfreebsd give people the freedom to
use the computers and the programs as they want , that we have not
problems of virus, we offer people the possibility to be part of a
community of hackers interested to create softwares. for example in
our community of wi-fi http://ninux.org we got a guy he has 14 years
old and just is a programmer, he uses gnu/linux.
as rms just said in the dvd revolution-os 2 there are guys interested
to known what is really happening in the computer, but if they use not
free software the teacher can't help him, one because the informations
are under copyright 2 because he is not authorized, but if he uses
free software the teacher can say him, you got the source code. now
when you see the source code for the first time, you are not able to
modify or write source code, but if you read many source code of third
people
you understood how to work, and step by step you became a good programmer.
this is the only way to teach guys, and a day that guys teach their
sons to program or they teach to others guys in the
schools/university, public administration, or government, national
security.... . this is important to form a community and understood
the the informations must be diffused.

these are the good things to have a good society,

yesterday evening i was looking the movie the little princess, and for
a moment i
am turned back to think to my life of child, i have always lived
thinking to the future
and how could be important to became anyone in the life. today i think
how is difficult remain as i was young. why to change ? why became
anyone in the life ?
i wanna be asked as nicknamenobody.

i thank you for your immediatly reply, and please excuse me, if my
english is no good.

best faithfully
pdb
nickname nobody

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>    1. Re: Microsoft Says "Vista has less bugs than XP"
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>    2. Re: Microsoft Says "Vista has less bugs than XP"
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> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:52:07 +0200
> From: Morten Juhl Johansen <mjj at syntaktisk.dk>
> Subject: Re: [BadVista Advocate] Microsoft Says "Vista has less bugs
> 	than XP"
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> Yasith Lahiru Vidanaarachchi wrote:
> > It's mainly not about bugs in windows software, it's about restrictions
> > to the users, DRM, trusted computing etc. windows software has always
> > been buggy right ?
>
> Buggy is not exactly a subjective parameter, either. I used KDE earlier
> on, and it crashed frequently. Also, the fact that as an Ubuntu user
> (which is hardly an example of freedom, so let us say gNewSense user)
> you have to edit xorg.conf manually, if you need a previously
> unconfigured resolution. The fact that a lot of resolutions are
> available but not through the graphical interface can be perceived as a bug.
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> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:01:17 +0530
> From: "Yasith Lahiru Vidanaarachchi" <yasith.vidanaarachchi at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BadVista Advocate] Microsoft Says "Vista has less bugs
> 	than XP"
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> I don't think it can be called as a bug (editing xorg.conf manually) it's
> the users choice. But this is a use full feature coz then I can make some
> software's to detect my VGA card as another one :P
>
> and makesure that you use the stable version of kde because there are lots
> of testing and unstable versions, as a testing kde user i didn't had many
> crashes up to this date. bugs are things that the developers don't know a
> reason why this is happening
>
> If I'm wrong correct me
>
> cheers
>
> On 4/29/07, Morten Juhl Johansen <mjj at syntaktisk.dk> wrote:
> >
> > Yasith Lahiru Vidanaarachchi wrote:
> > > It's mainly not about bugs in windows software, it's about restrictions
> > > to the users, DRM, trusted computing etc. windows software has always
> > > been buggy right ?
> >
> > Buggy is not exactly a subjective parameter, either. I used KDE earlier
> > on, and it crashed frequently. Also, the fact that as an Ubuntu user
> > (which is hardly an example of freedom, so let us say gNewSense user)
> > you have to edit xorg.conf manually, if you need a previously
> > unconfigured resolution. The fact that a lot of resolutions are
> > available but not through the graphical interface can be perceived as a
> > bug.
> >
> > Yours,
> > mjjohansen
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> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:22:32 -0700
> From: Don Hensley <Don at donhensley.com>
> Subject: Re: [BadVista Advocate] gnu/linux
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> Hi pdb,
> Nice to have you on board. Yes, the whole GPL and GNU project can easily be
> described as a labor of love. Or as the result of one person scratching
> their
> own itch, and sharing the relief with everyone.
>
> Either way it is about community.
>
> Which is the underling problem with Microsoft's latest evil creation==Vista.
> It is about many things, but community is not one of them.
>
> DRM and Treacherous Computing are about the death of community. They serve
> only to isolate every one from the other. That is their entire function.
>
> They are NOT about  protecting "rights" they are about destroying the most
> basic of human traits, that of being part of a community. It's what we
> humans
> do. Community is more then a 'right', it is an  inseparable part of what it
> is to be human, it's in your blood and bone, meat and brain, heart and soul.
>
> I will share a little bit from one of my favorite people "John Locke" (you
> can
> read more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke
>
> Among many other things, he said (I'm paraphrasing for simplicity):
>
> "In the beginning people could drink from the streams, eat of the fruit from
> the trees, and wake and sleep when and as they chose. Then one day a person
> came along and said 'These are MY trees, and you must pick the fruit from
> them for me. If you do so then I will pay you enough fruit back for your
> labor to feed you'. He said this even though he had no greater (or lessor)
> claim on the trees then did anyone else, for the trees belonged to all of
> human kind. Now the error was not in the person that claimed all the trees
> for himself, for to be master of all you can is also a human trait. The
> error
> was in those people that listened to him and started picking fruit for him,
> for they willingly became slaves."
>
> John Locke was a really smart guy. So the error is not that Vista wishes to
> lock things up so it becomes a Vista only world, the error would be in
> believing in that approach and starting to believe that something that
> really
> belongs to us all --algorithms and the way in which those algorithms are
> implemented, might actually be individual property. This is nothing less
> then
> patenting and/or trying to control our use of numbers and the methods of
> manipulating them - from addition to calculus, and realms as yet
> undiscovered.
>
> Buying into Vista is buying into the notion that something we all own (as in
> John Locke's fruit trees), can somehow actually be the 'property' of any one
> man or controlling group.
>
> It is our human heritage to explore new realms, let no man take from you the
> tools for doing so. And software patents, DRM, Treacherous Computing, and so
> on, are but ways to deny you that which makes you a free human.
>
> So yes pdb, there is nothing wrong with getting paid for your labor --so
> long
> as you retain the right to also give it away, for ultimately your labor must
> belong to you alone.
>
> Any other way of looking at who owns your labor involves slavery. Be Free,
> Stay Free... and joining the FSF isn't a bad way to help that cause (I just
> could not resist that little plug).
>
> Don.
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>  On Sunday 29 April 2007 06:38 am, paolo del bene wrote:
> my name is paolo del bene, for all the people known as pdb, i use
> gnu/linux from
> 2002, i am happy to use it, i have not any restriction that not free
> software has.
> the free software give me many possibilities which i could not have
> with not free software. for example i have no money to give to bill
> gates and others, but the question is not only money, but the freedom
> to use the software as any person want. the freeom to copy, make
> changes, to modify, to distribute any person, organization, to sell to
> create manuals, guides under the terms of gnu free documentation
> license, but the more important think is to be part of a community of
> hackers interested to create softwares and any other think to give
> people the freedom. when we think to the software we must think to the
> developers which 90% of times they work gratis or they receive few
> contributes. i am not interested to create a second microsoft, but to
> give anyone the right for their job. receives contributes is a way to
> give to the developers the possibility to continue to mantain opened
> the job, to mantain dsl, harware and to the end is right to be paid
> the right for the job, but if i want to give my job for free and
> gratis any have the possibility to use it and there is not any other
> license that give you the freedom to do this, so possibly use the gnu
> general public license gnu gpl.
>
> happy hacking
>
> pdb
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:55:44 +0800
> From: "Koh Choon Lin" <open07 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BadVista Advocate] gnu/linux
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> > DRM and Treacherous Computing are about the death of community. They serve
> > only to isolate every one from the other. That is their entire function.
>
> With DRM included in Vista, you are not in control of your computer.
> Your computer will keep connecting to Microsoft to download new
> instructions to follow. Your PC is obeying them, not you!
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Koh Choon Lin
> Singapore GNU Group
>
> singapore.gnu.googlepages.com
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