[BadVista Advocate] Linux for Newbies

Fri Jun 29 09:43:05 EDT 2007

Then those users can use QUNU :) it is much more closer and friendlier than
a forum, what do you think ?

On 6/29/07, Jacob Maynard <indymaynard at maynard.homelinux.com> wrote:
>
> Your points are valid. But for a common user, linuxforums.org are not user
> friendly, nor are they presented in a format that a newbie would want to
> use. It's too much to read. You and I use them on an almost daily basis,
> but that's because we share the same passion; learning. A common user
> doesn't want to feel like they are learning. Information needs to be
> presented in a way that the user doesn't realize that he/she is learning.
> I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's true. Users don't want a learning
> curve that a lot of experienced users find very easy. Users "just want it
> to work," to quote those people that I've talked to. They say they just
> want to plug it in and have it work. There's no two ways around that. If
> the information is put together in a flashy way, the user wouldn't realize
> that they are learning. Hence, it would be easier to get them to switch in
> the first place.
>
> Jacob
>
> > I don't think that TLDP is like a technical manual, it's a great way to
> > find
> > out ANY stuff you want to know, I've been using TLDP as my knowledge
> base
> > since i was 13. And I really must say that linuxforums.org do a great
> job
> > at
> > helping people, it's not geeky but it may seem a bit difficult at first.
> > but
> > when you try it, it will be all fine. Or you can always try the qunu
> > project
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > On 6/29/07, Jacob Maynard <indymaynard at maynard.homelinux.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is exactly what I'm talking about. It's imperative that we get a
> >> great design for putting this information out to people. We don't need
> >> another forum. People set up forums all of the time, and they are great
> >> for geeks. Normal users get so confused looking at them, though. And
> >> they
> >> don't want to take the time to register for an account.
> >>
> >> I totally agree with you, greenarrow.
> >>
> >> Jacob
> >>
> >> > On 6/26/07, Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu> wrote:
> >> >> Graham Cox wrote:
> >> >> > There are distro-specific parts that are needed - how you install
> >> >> software on
> >> >> > Ubuntu is very different to how you do so on Gentoo - but there is
> >> a
> >> >> lot more
> >> >> > that is not distro specific at all.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> And there are collated tutorials on these general issues.  For
> >> example,
> >> >> there's the Linux Documentation Project.
> >> >>
> >> >> Matt Flaschen
> >> >>
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> >> >
> >> > Can you honestly say the Linux Documentation Project is written in
> the
> >> > way a Windows user just coming to Linux would understand?  And, when
> >> > searching for this how does the new Linux wannabe search for it?  Its
> >> > not even on the first couple of pages if you search Linux newbie.
> >> > Just like selling a new toy, without it listed in plain view so
> >> > everyone could see it, plus good illustrations it is not going to
> >> > sell.
> >> >
> >> > We need a general site that is not written or designed like it is a
> >> > technical manual.  Window users are not going to read if it is
> written
> >> > like it is from a tech manual.  We need some active content and get
> >> > away from the straight geek type set ups.  Linux programmers are even
> >> > beginning to see this.  I seen a big change in the way OpenSUSE is
> >> > being generated now.  Easier to comprehend, you see screenshots, more
> >> > active content in materials and getting away from the hohum military
> >> > style of writing instructions.
> >> >
> >> > George
> >> > greenarrow1
> >> > InNetInvestigations-Forensic
> >> > SuSe 10.2/TriStar/Apache
> >> > GoBoLinux
> >> >
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