[BadVista Advocate] Question about Vista's EULA

Ringo Kamens 2600denver at gmail.com
Tue Jul 31 11:40:13 EDT 2007


I have heard about people sucessfully getting a refund for their
windows software by going back to the retailer. I believe this is more
likely to work at small-time computer shops as opposed to
mega-conglomerates like wal-mart or best buy. It's worth a try. If
they refuse to take back the software or computer (as in they refuse
to take back anything) then you can launch a fraud claim against them
in small claims court. 99% of the time they give you what you want and
you don't really even need a lawyer for it. Check out NOLOs books on
small claims court and lawsuits.
Comrade Ringo Kamens

On 7/31/07, Mario Torre <neugens at limasoftware.net> wrote:
> Il giorno mer, 01/08/2007 alle 01.35 +1200, Timothy Musson ha scritto:
>
> > If anyone has advice/suggestions, it'd be very welcome :^)
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> >
> > Tim
>
> Hello!
>
> I hope to be wrong, but we discussed that while trying to organize a
> movement to help people doing just that, avoid the m$ tax.
>
> It seems that some companies require you give back the whole computer if
> you don't accept the m$ license. This is because m$ sold to, say, HP
> (Dell, IBM for that matter) the right to use the software, then these
> companies give you, under the EULA, right to use the software, following
> that a given copy of the software is tied to exactly one machine (the
> one you get).
>
> On a side note, I've got an HP laptop and this was clearly stated: with
> the m$ EULA, there was an HP EULA stating that the software installed
> was subject to license, I had the right to remove that, but not to copy
> it or install on a different computer (bla bla bla), and that if I
> wanted money back I had to return the machine as is to the shop within a
> month or so, or to a valid HP support center.
>
> I hate to admit that I gave up on that.
>
> We are in the middle of a petition to ask our Government to give
> customers the right to get money back if they don't use the
> pre-installed software and to make that easy.
>
> So my guess is that this really depends on your own country. If you
> manage to get these money back, please share your experience with us.
>
> Mario
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