[BadVista Advocate] Newspick: Vista "phones home"
bradleyp@juno.com
bradleyp at juno.com
Sat Jul 7 01:42:14 EDT 2007
If one were merely capturing the packets that Vista was sending to M$,
surely that wouldn't qualify as reverse engineering or circumventing DRM.
Comments?
Brad
On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:48:23 -0700 "member greenarrow1"
<greenarrow1 at opensuse.us> writes:
> Only if we bench test but not talk about. This is what the problem
> is
> as you stated because if one tears apart anything you are violating
> the EULA and license. The EULA back talks itself in areas allowing
> you in one statement then denying you in another. One area of
> concern
> is WGA as it requests to change and modify the physical memory thus
> creating a back door avenue for root kits. MS told me they fixed
> this
> months ago but I found it back again with the last WGA update so
> whom
> are they trying to fool.
>
> Besides Google has now been in contact with me about the info I
> have.
> As much as I do not really like Google privacy and rules at least
> this
> is a avenue for me for financial and lawyer support against Vista
> and
> MS. If Vista and MS do not violate anti-trust in certain software
> and
> software areas then we all might as well forget everything because
> they have the higher ups in their pockets. Plus regardless of what
> the EULA and license states and the user agrees does not mean the
> EULA
> does not violate federal or state privacy laws. The EULA leaves
> that
> open as to what MS can do with private info in the future and needs
> court clarification. I want to know what law gives them the right
> to
> collect this data in the first place. Preventing piracy is not a
> legal reason nor do I feel it would stand up in court. MS is a
> big
> backer of DRM and one of the reasons is their wanting control of
> what
> you do, the internet, and everything that you have on your
> computer.
> They want the user to be totally dependent on Microsoft.
>
> George
>
> On 7/3/07, Mario Torre <neugens at limasoftware.net> wrote:
> > Il giorno lun, 02/07/2007 alle 22.42 -0700, member greenarrow1 ha
> > scritto:
> >
> > > Maybe a little of both. If I told MS that portions of their
> software
> > > violate privacy laws they will come back and ask me how I derived
> this
> > > info.
> >
> > On a side note, we are currently violating the EULA ;), which
> forbids
> > users to reveal portion of itself...
> >
> > Mario
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